We close our podcast series, Organizing for Abolition. Envisioning Liberation., with a very special episode. Recorded in person at our annual board meeting, we’re joined by two of the leading voices in the family policing abolitionist movement. Kristen Weber of the National Center for Youth Law and Alan Dettlaff of upEND Movement discuss family policing through the lens of racial justice and how our current system is an extension of slavery — in which Black families continue to be disproportionately separated and criminalized. Listen to the full episode to hear more about how family policing fits into the broader abolitionist movement.